For those who are not familiar with Pas, the party actually has an anthem, the same as Umno. The opening line was about calling for the Muslims to unite. Ironic, isn't it? Pas who regards fellow Muslims as infidels and apostates and praying for their destruction singing about a united ummah.
Ok, on surface, Umno may not look as Islamic as Pas, but they are still Muslims. For Nik Aziz to condemn Umno as apostates and Hadi Awang once calling them infidels, I think maybe the Muslims in this country are really doomed to be ruled by others.
Maybe they don't even deserve it to lead this country.
The split among the Malay Muslims has probably reached a point of no return, it seems.
I wouldn't really blame Kit Siang and son Guan Eng if they are now feel ing smug. They already have almost total Chinese support while the Malays squabble among themselves as to, who should be PM and who are more Islamic etc.
Kudos to the Chinese for their ability to unite under DAP. You all really make the Malays look pathetic when it come to matters of securing the interests of your community.
Sorry that I have to say this about my own race - MALAYS ARE STUPID.
Maybe as stupid as the Arabs, who stood by while their brothers and sisters were being butchered by the Zionists.
That's all I want to say for today. You all chew on that one, ok?
Anwar berjaya melakukan ini semua...
ReplyDeleteTerima kasih Anwar...
Asl'kum,you aced it sis. Ever wonder why ALLAH in all HIS grace and mercy made us muslim? The same reason why the pagan arab in the days of yore was made one.
ReplyDeleteReason Allah create human: Adz Dzariyat (51:56). 247. 365 for our lifetime. Reason we live our life on earth: Al Araf (7:10). What we must do on earth: Al Fath (48:28). How: Al Fatihah (1:6). What is the answer for the du'a in Al Fatihah: Ar Room (30:30).... The whole answer in in Al Quran, the only rukun iman that you can see and hold. As a conclusion for this, read Al Balad (90:1-20) and understand what Allah swt remind all of us the condition when you are on the straight path. That's why Allah swt mention sabar many times in Al Quran. If we muslim do our work as instructed by Allah in Al Quran, the world condition will be as in: An Nasr (110:1-3). So, what are we waiting for? Life is short. Let's do it and sabar: As Saff (1-14).
DeleteSigh. U r right big cat.
ReplyDeleteWhy do melayus worship children of immigrants as their demi gods ? Like the Indian Mamakthir ? Or the Indian Nor yakcop ? Or the Pakistani Shahreezat ? Or the Filipino Apdal ?
ReplyDeleteMana melayu tulen ?
Here's a c&p for you:
Delete"You people keep making fun of the Malays, mamaks, etc, what about you Chinese? What's the equivalent to call you all also having mixed blood? Now, now, don't say you people are pure Chinese.
Here is what Professor C.P. Fitzgerald says in his book, "A Short Cultural History of China" (600+ pages) - he lived in China for 5 years to research and gather material for that book:
The phrase "origin of the Chinese people" is in itself misleading.
1. Chinese culture took root in the plains of Manchuria, a foreign country until after World War II
2. The northern provinces have always to some degree been mixed with "peoples from the Mongolian steppes"
3. The southern and central provinces of China were, before the northerners moved southwards, "covered" by non-Chinese, the Miao, small in size and who the Chinese were contemptuous of.
4. The south was originally occupied by "aboriginal tribes". The ancestors of most of the migrants to Malaya/ sia came from the south. The Professor said, "A large proportion of the population of the south calling itself 'Chinese' is in fact descended from one or other of the aboriginal races" - page 6. Many living in the interior, in the hills and the highlands. Even in modern times, in Yunnan and Kueichou, tribesmen number half the population.
The southerners comprise the following major groups:
a. Fukienese (Hokkien), "a separate stock, mixed with immigrants from the north and the Yangtze Valley" and speaking "a peculiar dialect".
b. Cantonese, also speak a somewhat alien language, a form of old Chinese - the south was colonized by the northerners, colonization completed in the 7th Century - some 800 years after China was formed as a political entity by Chin Shih Huang Di.
c. Hakkas, of Kuantung province, known as "guest families" - they speak a peculiar dialect, despised by the Cantonese and do not inter marry. These people were said to have come from the north, running away from frequent Mongol invasions that culminated in the conquest of China by Genghis Khan in the 13th Century.
So, if any of you are referred to as descendants of the Miao (who are aborigines and non-Chinese), or other aborigines of south China, don't blame me, I'm just a messenger of the news. You can't also blame Professor Fitzgerald any more because he died some years ago.
So, how about we refrain from racial profiling and name calling, ha? Still angry with me, wanna call me names? Don't la, coz you also can be called names."
Here's another c&p for you:
Delete"Books on the Malays written by Mohd Arof Ishak, published by the Historical Society of Malaysia:
1. The Malay Civilization, 2007
2. Tamadun Alam Melayu, 2009.
The Malaysian Constitution provides a definition of Malays as habitually Malay speaking, of the Islamic religion and practising the Malay way of life or culture.
The book, “The Malay Civilization”, explains the scores of research carried out since the time of Captain Cook (who brought scientists including a language expert during his expeditions), those done in the 19th and 20th Centuries, especially by experts in the relevant fields in the latter half of the 20th Century in this region of South east Asia.
The author explains that the racial family that occupies this area called the Malay Archipelago and beyond is a very large one, called the Large Family of Malays (Keluarga Besar Melayu or Rumpun Melayu) and each group within the family is known by its own ethnic name, such as Achinese, Bugis, Chamorro, Dayak, Ifugao, Kadazan, Jawa, Filipino, Suluk, Maori, Merina etc and, Malay is one, too.
Why Keluarga Besar or Rumpun Melayu is used - the Malays of the Malay Peninsula were the first people of the large family, and of Southeast Asia, to be met by the Europeans when they arrived in the East, by sea. The Europeans were Portuguese, the year was 1509 and the place was Malacca. Thus, Malay was entered in the European vocabulary as the name of the race of people in the Malay Archipelago. They have similarities with those who have gone beyond, as far away as Madagascar, Malayo-Polynesia, Indo-China, Taiwan, Hawai, etc.
The book chose the term Malay to refer to the large family group (instead of Austronesian or Malayo-Polynesian) for ease of reference. It said, “After all, the Polynesians, Micronesians and Madagascans all originated in the Malay Archipelago”.
Note also that for centuries this region from the Isthmus of Kra (now partly under Thailand and partly under Myanmar) through the land called the Malay Peninsula, Sabah, Sarawak, Kalimantan and all the islands, including the 13,000 islands of Indonesia and the 7,000 islands of the Philippines, have been known the world over as the Malay Archipelago. Further down south, one group of islands has also for centuries been known as Malayo-Polynesia.
The Indonesians (population of 250 million) have accepted their Malay stock. The Filipinos (population of 80 million) even call their nationalist fighter, Jose Rizal, “a great Malay”; a famous book on him carries the title “Pride of the Malay Race”. The terms Malay, Malayan, Indonesian, Austronesian and Malayo-Polynesian have often been used interchangeably by writers and scholars alike to refer to the people of this region.
The Rumpun Melayu constitutes some 350 million people.
00:49,
DeleteWhy full stop? No more arguments? Scared to argue? No money to buy those books at RM80 - 90 each? Pool resources lah, 4-5 olang kongsi beli. Read them and then come here to argue lah. Got balls?
When you read those books, you'll know that the stupid idea you mentioned was thrashed out in the mid 1950s. Thrown into the dust bin. Tak laku. No substance.
I say, if you want to argue, don't just write 1 line comment lah. Damn stupid, innit? Big Cat, the word stupid has to be used against these fellows lah. The very definition of the word fits such blokes.
And pssst fellows, the word bloke is not necessarily derogatory, you know. The Oxford dictionary says it's also used for a ship's captain. But whether apt or not for some blokes here, it's a different matter lah.
Dumno ask people to believe in 80, 90 ringgit cheap book? I believe in Koran. People begin in Middle East and they move down - goes to India, China , down to Malaya to Philippines. So Pinoys are Malays but Dumno think they are aliens
DeleteMuch as I hate to admit it. Memang betul Malays esp PAS Malays are damn stupid. But we cannot give up. For the sake of our future generations, Malays & Chinese alike, everybody needs to understand and accept what our forefathers have forged. If we give up on that, our country will turn to ashes in 20 years. Calling all Chinese & Stupid PAS, lets get intoa win-win situation!
ReplyDeleteSo are you admitting that you are stupid too? (unless if you are not a Malay of course)
DeleteNot stupid Sis, gullible is more the apt word.
ReplyDeleteBut do not forget history, the Malays will be united when there is a threat facing the whole community. Remember the Malayan Union? The Brits underestimated the Malays taught we were the tak ape types, and tried to introduce the Malayan Union, the Malays raised to the occasion to oppose the Malayan Union.
Having said that I think some PAS leaders and supporters are really stupid to use religion to further their narrow politics.
Well said eddy.
DeleteYa memang bangang.. Tapi demi masa depan, jangan harap saya nak undi orang yang mengaku baik bertopengkan agama menggadai maruah bangsa, penipu depan mata. Baiklah saya undi BN yang sah2 dah banyak membawa perubahan kepada keluarga saya dan rakyat Malaysia.
ReplyDeleteStealing is unislamic and a crime. However, it is not a crime if you know the AG, the MACC or the police.
ReplyDeleteBig Cat,
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't put it so far. It is the leaders that is putting words into our mouth while I don't really see huge differences of opinions or altercations among the Malays and even between Malays and non-Malays. For many we just want to get on with our lives earning our keep to feed our family. I get along with everyone even whether they are PAS, PKR, DAP, UMNO, BN, MCA, MIC etc. There are differences of opinions but nothing that brings things towards a heated argument. For me I would put the blame squarely on the leaders and their lackeys trying to manipulate our thoughts and our actions. Say what they will. In the end it is the voters that matters with the blessings of Allah. If Allah says no go they can pray 24/7 spouting the foulest of thoughts and wishes and nothing will happen. Doubting the ultimate power and decision maker is itself sacrilegious.
The afterlife is a concern for most muslims. Not for Umnoputras. Makan tak kenyang pon.
ReplyDelete'Kudos to the Chinese for their ability to unite under DAP. You all really make the Malays look pathetic when it come to matters of securing the interests of your community.'
ReplyDeleteChinese unite behind DAP and PR because we want good governance and transparency.Not because of race.We welcome all races especially Malays who thinks they want good governance and a better country to live in to join us.We have given the present government 50 over years and this is the best they can do with all our natural resources.Guess its about time to change managers like the football clubs. Those cannot perform should be sacked.
"......want good governance and a better country to live in to join us..."
DeleteGood governance ala Selangor, Pulau Pinang, Kelantan... my foot!!
Anon 22:16
DeleteKalau berani, panggil lah PRU13 and see what happens in Selangor, Penang and Kelantan......cakap pandai, tapi tak berani....
Curi2 Malaysia
"Chinese unite behind DAP and PR because we want good governance and transparency."
DeleteYou must be delusional.. Most Chinese unite behind DAP because they want more of everything. It is not enough that they control 80% of the economic pie.. if possible they want 99%. Just leave 1% scrap to the rest.
If they can, they also want to control 99% of civil servant jobs.. so that they can make policy to support the 99% control of the economic pie.
Unfortunately.. in their quest to find more money, they forgot to procreate.. So not enough number to execute that plan.
So now they focus on politics.. be the mind behind the "power".. The king-maker.
The Malays being gullible as they always were.. just swallow hook, line and sinker.. The End
Malays hide under and UMNO make them rich? Yes only cronies are rich but many are poor like those in Kelantan and even at the expense of bumis in Sabah and Sarawak. Kelantan Mays have to go to Sinkapore to cari makan. Yes, malays have be gulliable by UMNO. Vote UMNo, get $50 but UMNputras get millions? Why Pakistani Sye 1 Person gets all the meat - Rail, seaports, airports, Pos and what did millions of malays get? Worst - other bumis, Penans, Orang asli, Ibans etc get even less.
DeleteAnonymous 20 November 2012 01:03,
DeleteYa lah many Malays are poor like those in Kelantan. Kelantan Malays have to go to Sinkapore to cari makan. Because for 22 years of PAS rule, Nik Hadi couldn't even get local investors to open up simple soap or mee factories in Kelantan. Chinese investors takut PAS Hudud.
Yes, local Investors like DUMNO cannot invest in Kelantan - no side income. Otherwise they will find themselves with hands and legs!!! Johor Malays also go down to Sinkapore. $2k Sin dollar get RM5k. Small country but money - big bullock cart.
Delete"Muslims in this country are really doomed to be ruled by others. " What's wrong with that ? We were ruled by an Indian for 22 years, and it wasn't Paramswara.
ReplyDeleteBodohnya anony nih.. siapa yg Indian dan utk makluman si bodoh nih Parameswara (nama pun salah, mesti sejarah fail nih) adalah Melayu berugama Hindu! Dan ia ada pra Islam..
DeleteAishh.. bodoh bodoh..
Anon 21:51,
DeleteTambah sikit lagi pendapat Anon 23:35. Anda memang bodoh! Siapa di Malaysia ini boleh mengaku 100% berdarah Melayu, mesti ada campuran darah luar. Ini akibat kawasan Kepulauan Melayu tempat berkumpulnya pelbagai bangsa akibat perdaganagn.
Balik kepada tafsiran Melayu mengikut perlembagaan. Saya percaya anda sendiri bukan pure Malay. Mesti ada campuran darah India, Cina atau dari dari etnik lain rmpun Melayu!
Balik sekolah semula dan belajar sejarah dengan bersungguh sungguh!
Anon 23:35 mamat bodoh dan buta....siapa yang Indian pon tak tahu...alamak, baca lah sejarah - si Indian tu tulis "Indian" waktu dia masuk University of Malaya di Singapura.
DeleteSetuju dengan Anonymous 19 November 2012 23:35.
DeleteSila baca c&p saya sebagai jawapan kapada satu komen di atas pasal Melayu dan Keluarga Besar Melayu..
PKFZ, AES, NFC, BBMB, MMC, 1MDB, all these scandalous acronyms....who doesn't pray for Umno's demise ?
ReplyDeleteIkut anon 23:38 - mana ade ? Ini semua fitnah, tak pernah berlaku. Tido lah bawah pokok kelapa.....
DeleteKuching Besar, why do you write naive articles like this one ? You mean you don't know that the majority of Malaysians - not just PAS Malays - are praying for the demise of BN ? If you were at the recent Deepavali gathering at Batu Caves, you will realise that many Indians were praying to Lord Murugan for the demise of UMNO. The Indians were angry at being marginalised by UMNO, and the victimisation of people like Ambiga.
ReplyDeleteAt Chinese New Year, you will find that most Chinese will pray to their Gods for the demise of BN. At Christmas all over the country, Christians will be praying for BN's demise too.
Aiya, you mean you don't know the reason why Najib hasn't had the guts to call for elections ? He knows he's going to lose, so he might as well go for the full term - and spend a few more months screwing the country with his overpriced deals.
Curi2 Malaysia
Ntah fakta mana mangkuk ni pakai utk justifikasi dakwanya..
DeleteNtah2 dia main pakai kpala otak dia kat bawah nun utk tulis nih..
Anon 23:38 memang buta. Tak apa lah, orang buta tak akan berkuasa lama.
DeleteSo now we know where PAS learns their doa KO BN from.
DeleteKita minta fakta dikatanya kita buta, ko pekak ke anony 01:21 oi!
DeleteMmg elok dipanggil bodoh..
We have to ensure that each member of our family is perfect before pointing fingers at others and using the word "BODOH PUNYA ORANG". Kata bistari orang2 tua, tengok diri sendiri dan anak2 sebelum mengata kat orang lain.
ReplyDeleteWe have here one PAS mulut becok, mengata anak semua orang unislamic etc, mungkin trying to cover her guilt however all of us (probably except for her) knew that in the city the daughter is a GRO - yg kerja joget2 layan jantan kat kelab malam!
So my advice to Pakcik Makcik PAS, risik2 hal dalaman keluarga sendiri dulu sebelum label orang lain BODOH or UNISLAMIC..
It's stupid too if you don't admit that you are stupid, if you belagak pandai pon people still can see that your action is stupid.
ReplyDeleteOrang Melayu kurang dan malas berfikir ,kalau orang Melayu rajin berfikir tidaklah mudah mereka diperbodohkan dan memperchayai pemimpin yang memperbodohkan mereka sendiri.
A million for me.....ten ringgit for an ordinary Malay....siapa yang pandai dan siapa yang bodoh ?
ReplyDeleteMelayu Pandai
Why are you folks arguing about who is smart and who is stupid ? Just call for elections, and let the rakyat decide !
ReplyDeleteGodfather
Call for election at the last allowable date lah. So that Pakatan Rakyat can make more fools of themselves.
DeleteAlready a lot of foolhardiness come out from PR component parties as a result of PAS Muktamar last weekend. Lu tatak baca kah?
Kuching besar, the latest scandal on the 24 plots of land in selangor sold to the den of thieves between 2000 and 2007 - Umno dapat 15 plot, MCA dapat 5 plot, MIC dapat 3 plot dan gerakan dapat 1 plot. Harga hanye RM 1 psf.
ReplyDeleteIni bukan cara Islamic. Beribu 2 rakyat tak ade rumah. Katakan BN, kita tak cukup tanah. Mcm mana nak pujuk rakyat undi pencuri2 BN ni ?
May i suggest that we all take up arms and fight..gureilla..(oops spellin!!)..urban or jungle warfare..we fight to death..kill amd maimed one another..women children ole folks all all collateral damage only..in war everthing is ok..we use missiles and cluster bombs.It is a bloody racial war and with the churches coming in, a religious war a jihad or a crusade..make it even worse than what had happened in Bosnia, in Iraq, in Afganistan..the jungles are there.We close all schools,mosques, churches, temples.We all take up arms.Then happily and gleefully Chinese Singapore will intervene becos their yelow and slit eyes racsist people were being persecuted.The UN will send troops to this country.This war will be for many2 years
ReplyDeleteHey you, son of a gun, you are seditious, can be arrested and charged in court under the Sedition Act, do you know that? Even subversive and could have been arrested under the ISA if that enactment was not repealed. But there is an ISA replacement law and you could be arrested and charged under that.
DeleteI'm quite sure the authorities (Police etc) are watching what fellows like you write and will jump on you if you persist in doing so. Remember, they can trace you by your computer IP numbers that come out every time you write in the Internet. They traced the blokes who defaced the website of the Sultan of Perak last time, arrested, charged them in court and were found guilty. All were reported in the papers, remember?
So, be responsible in what you write.
the male of the specie's mind is preoccupied with c*nts and how to get more of it 24/7 - not much left to think of anything else. Look at the kind of stuff they read and the ads on their magazines and blogs. Lack of confidence in their own virility is stark.The female even dumber for kowtowing to such stupidity. How can someone who actually believes having back her licentious husband in Paradise as a reward be called *intelligent*??????..kkkkkkkk
ReplyDeleteNo, we only make fun of the Indian king who ruled over us for 22 years.
ReplyDeletewhy dont you guys read this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nst.com.my/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/malay-origins-evidence-suggests-otherwise-1.167600
Entry to heaven or hell is not even remotely related to which political party you belong to - its all about the character of the individual. This type of thinking is as weak and faulty as the idea that unity of thought supports power and development.
ReplyDeleteI welcome the different ideas offered by different political parties because it gives the rakyat the chance to choose. It provides a battle of ideas and this competition is always good. Unity of thought leads to mental decay, sloppiness, disinterest in serving the people and arrogance. When is unity important - when dealing with outsiders. Then put your citizens needs, rights and wants first. Check the US - both political giants loathe eachother, but both put their country first when dealing with outsiders. The rise of the opposition in M'sia has made both parties raise their game, improve policies, become more responsive and challenge old ways that no longer serve the people well. I hope it continues because it benefits us all - regardless of who wins or loses.
Special previleges one have to go front line. Second class will be far way behind those in the front line. In USA, no problem as everyone are in front line.
DeleteYou stupid fella don't know there are so many Anwar-like fellas in USA, will korek your bonxxx and you become 3rd class!
Deletefellas in USA want to experience and go to non-Christian countries and korek them. So they come and tell you how USA fellas korek them in Middle East and north Pakistan
DeleteSo what's his name ? Mahapahit ? Mahatail ? Mahakutty ?
ReplyDeleteNot all Malays are stupid. Only the PAS and PKR kind. And the straggler Malays who joined DAP - only a smattering few of them.
ReplyDeleteNot "most" but only "some". You included.
ReplyDeleteSee my c&p regarding the blokes who keep calling others mamak etc, in an earlier comment. About the Cina Bukit with mixed blood that Professors have written about.
ReplyDeletePeople are the same everywhere. They want to be respected and accepted. Some people want more love. But being in an animal world, some animals have more rights than others.
ReplyDeleteAs policy makers, they have thought, formulated, acted according to these hierarchical rights. "Kesetian kepada raja dan negara", they preach. But they have created their own history by becoming rajas in their own kingdom.
The Malacca Sultanate have been disgraced to no longer exist although they promise to resurrect it if some descendants can show proof by producing the Keris Taming Sari.
In the meantime, the powers that be continue to rape, loot, and reaps the bounty of the country under the pretense of doing more for the right, and protecting their animal rights at the same time.
All the rakyat ask for is to provide for their families and ensure a better future for their children.
In the meantime, the animal kingdom continues, governed by the laws of the jungle.
Animals are the same everywhere too, but some cows want to live in better condominiums. [Here's the sales pitch: we provide elevators for cows too]
Surah Al Maidah, ayat 48: Dan Kami telah turunkan kepadamu Al Quran dengan membawa kebenaran, membenarkan apa yang sebelumnya, yaitu kitab-kitab (yang diturunkan sebelumnya) dan batu ujian terhadap kitab-kitab yang lain itu; maka putuskanlah perkara mereka menurut apa yang Allah turunkan dan janganlah kamu mengikuti hawa nafsu mereka dengan meninggalkan kebenaran yang telah datang kepadamu. Untuk tiap-tiap umat diantara kamu, Kami berikan aturan dan jalan yang terang. Sekiranya Allah menghendaki, niscaya kamu dijadikan-Nya satu umat (saja), tetapi Allah hendak menguji kamu terhadap pemberian-Nya kepadamu, maka berlomba-lombalah berbuat kebajikan. Hanya kepada Allah-lah kembali kamu semuanya, lalu diberitahukan-Nya kepadamu apa yang telah kamu perselisihkan itu,
ReplyDeleteAl Maidah, ayat 49: dan hendaklah kamu memutuskan perkara di antara mereka menurut apa yang diturunkan Allah, dan janganlah kamu mengikuti hawa nafsu mereka. Dan berhati-hatilah kamu terhadap mereka, supaya mereka tidak memalingkan kamu dari sebahagian apa yang telah diturunkan Allah kepadamu. Jika mereka berpaling (dari hukum yang telah diturunkan Allah), maka ketahuilah bahwa sesungguhnya Allah menghendaki akan menimpakan mushibah kepada mereka disebabkan sebahagian dosa-dosa mereka. Dan sesungguhnya kebanyakan manusia adalah orang-orang yang fasik.
Soooooo, so simple. Siapa tak faham rajin rajinlah mencari jawapan sebelum bercerai nyawa dari badan. Hukum Allah wajib. Demokrasi perosak minda macam korang ni. Nak kuasa memilih pemimpin di tangan rakyat konon. Semua ini lari dari kemahuan Allah swt. So, satu jari tuding orang lain bodoh, tiga jari lagi tunjuk kat diri sendiri.
Bangunlah Islam yang hak! Menjamin kesejahteraan seluruh jagat.
well, for me I'm not saying that Malays are stupid but most of them don't have determinations to make their lives better. I'm talking about my own race.I'm a Malay too and I know how my people are. I just hope if Malays can build success at a same level as most Chinese. I'm not saying this to be proud of Chinese people but you guys can see how rapidly growth of Singapore that most of successors are Chinese. In Malaysia, we can also see that most of Chinese people are successful but most of our Malays?? Just think about this oh Malays.....
ReplyDeletewhatever...im a genius and always be...peace..
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